Some weeks ago on the main blog there was a discussion about how confusing the nominating and donding process can be for newcomers to RR. We discussed some of the techniques used and I volunteered to put together something in draft for further review here and to see if Marconius might have room for a finished document in The Marconium. (He says good idea!)
Here is my draft for your review and comments. (I am not much of a technical writer so feel free to make appropriate suggestions for format as well as content.)
Please can you give your opinions and anything you think needs to be added in the comments below, even to indicate that you’re okay with the draft, so I get some feedback. I’ll leave this out there until Sunday 27th at noon to give everyone a chance to comment before I prepare a final document to give to Marconius.
If there are a lot of amendments I’ll post it back here for a quick look-over.
Nominating and Donding Guide
Other than following The Guardian format for posting, and their Community Guidelines, there are no right or wrong ways, no rules or conventions for nominating or donding songs/music on Readers Recommend.
- Log in and type your nomination in the comment box – Song Title and Artist/Band name and
if possible, your justification of why you think the song fits the rubric for the week’s topic.
To link the song to a clip (e.g. YouTube) do the following*:
1 Highlight the text you want to link. If you wish to bold it, select the B [bold] tab, then
2 Go to the grey LINK box in the comment you are working on and click on it, then
3 Open another browser tab and search and find the clip you want to use, check that it is suitable, then
4 Copy the http address (e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlAvh1GpVKw) and then
5 Go back to the RR tab and click on the L[link] tab again and Paste the copied text into the box that pops up then
6 Hit OK
* If you have a manky old computer, don’t worry. You can paste in the url address or just name the song and artist/band.
- Add any more text you want
- Preview your post
- Post your comment
So, What Techniques Do RRers Use For Nominating?
“Whatever shows up in my head. If it’s a fertile topic, my head is flooded well into Friday morning from Thursday night. If I’m having a more difficult time, I’ll start to mentally or go through songs / albums by my favorite artists. If it gets even more difficult, I’ll look at online discographies to jog my memory. I do use google to check (and paste) my lyrics, sometimes a song isn’t about what I think it is. Or if I have a line in my head but can’t remember the song or who the artist is.” Rip This Joint
“I am too consumed by competitiveness… So I’m afraid I have been guilty in the past (less so now I’m less obsessed with the game, but it still happens) of searching my iTunes for relevant words. That said, the listings I’ve got have always been more satisfying when they’ve come a bit more hard-earned.” bishbosh
“I think searching your own iTunes is fine, because presumably it’ll bring up songs that you like (since you already have them)!…” Treefrogdemon
“Another nomming technique for ultra tight topics is to abstain! I had to abstain for the most part on bicycles, Wales (except for classical singers), and b-sides, to name just a few.” RipThisJoint
“I have a visceral loathing of the whole Midnight Feeding Frenzy [now 10pm Feeding Frenzy], dumping of long lists of vaguely-relevant song titles thing; if a nomination doesn’t consist of a 2,500-word essay referencing Nietzsche and Bourdieu then I’m not interested, even if it means that I miss out on A-listers because someone else has nominated the song while I’m still writing said essay. Equally, I hate themes where it’s possible simply to search for key terms in the title; I’d much rather rely on random inspiration, when a song or a lyric suddenly pops into my head, even if it’s after the deadline.” Abahachi
“The patented Ubu nominating technique is as follows:
- Suggest anything I feel like suggesting.
- Occasionally these have something vaguely to do with the topic. Mostly they don’t but are “good” tracks.
- Sometimes I make things up, I’m terrible like that.
- Songs concerning toilets WILL be nominated.
- Songs with ludicrous titles/subject matter/words etc will be nominated. The Guardian is sour faced enough as it is, a little technicolour weirdness ( or chocolate rainbow unicorn bunnies) is necessary to leaven the tide of grey gloom.Take nothing seriously but try not to upset too many people each week.
- Ignore the “list”. They have been terrible of late, more suited to a 50th anniversary wedding party or gathering of depressives ( is there a collective term ? A Misanthrope ?).
- Accept that the rest of the world is wrong. I find that helps.
- Pretend to like Yui to keep in Sakura’s good books ( only kidding….or am I ….?)
- Write rubbish.
- Don’t use spell check.
- Change group names or song names in “humorous” fashion.
- Above all, have fun ( by my standards which , I must admit, are set pretty low anyway).” Pairubu
You have three choices, and you can use any or all or any of these:
- Click the recommend against the post
- Respond to the nomination post(s) by letting the poster know that you’re donding the song
- Compile your own dond list(s)
For me it’s a scattergun thing depending on how much time I have – I like weeks where I’m engaged in a tedious manual task like painting as I can just work through the Spotify List or Dropbox and just run through tons of often great stuff – I like that as I’ve not got any preconceptions of what is coming up. Some weeks I’ll just click around on things that catch my interest and dond songs that I know I already love. Some weeks, like this week, it’s somewhere between the two…” BeltwayBandit
“Could you include the Recommending option [for donding]. I used to keep a running list, whittle it down after second listens, etc and post my donds of the week after the weekend. But it all got to be too pressurized, and weeks when I didn’t have time to listen to everything I felt guilty. So I switched to clicking recommend, and then I don’t have to risk hurting feelings explaining that I liked a song but thought it was off topic or that I simply hadn’t had a chance to listen thoroughly and on and on. I think whatever works for a person is THE right way to do it, and that should be stressed .. even if the right way for someone is not to dond or recommend or to simply do it as the mood strikes from one week to the next.” Tincanman